tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27601830.post7221965231172188324..comments2023-07-08T07:33:24.470-07:00Comments on Hope for Pandora: Seattle Speaking Science: October 5thomas robeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10507272466209300062noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27601830.post-78553963488902577132007-09-29T07:25:00.000-07:002007-09-29T07:25:00.000-07:00Chris and Matt were in Minneapolis last night (9/2...Chris and Matt were in Minneapolis last night (9/28), but instead of merely giving a talk they participated in a forum with PZ Myers and Greg Laden. They abbreviated their presentations, but I found it interesting.<BR/><BR/>But there are two points that they hit on and on one they all missed the mark:<BR/><BR/>They deplored the education system, but I still think that, as a parent anyway, the education system can only do so much in a society in which Reality TV, and especially American Idol and the like, are the dominant popular frames taking away from the popular engagement with science issues. <BR/><BR/>In such a society, all that people want are the headlines on science, and they can be very confusing if you only skim them or read newspaper articles about them. The kids aren't paying close enough attention, and the teachers are beating their heads against the wall trying to get them to learn, but you can't pour water into a bottle when its cap is still on.<BR/><BR/>The second part was that Chris tried to deflect the "New Atheism Noise Machine" issue, by saying they agree in 99% of the causes of the negative framing that science receives from the right, but Matt later raised the issue in the Q&A, and it didn't give us a chance to discuss the issue that was the main reason I went.<BR/><BR/>I will do a full report within the next few days at my own blog, but I still have to figure out the rss issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27601830.post-75295039168971002942007-09-28T23:17:00.000-07:002007-09-28T23:17:00.000-07:00I'll let you know at which events to find me after...I'll let you know at which events to find me after I learn about my call schedule. (I hear Monday.) I definitely will not be at the daytime events.thomas robeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507272466209300062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27601830.post-70120429227183662302007-09-28T19:56:00.000-07:002007-09-28T19:56:00.000-07:00I'll be there. Depending on how busy I get, I'm g...I'll be there. Depending on how busy I get, I'm going to try to come for the daytime events, but I'll certainly make the evening fun.Mark Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10333424116503463839noreply@blogger.com